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Bolt Action Book Posted on [25/01/2016] à 19:08

Hey all,


Just an idea the other day I came across the Bolt Action Books and wondered if anyone had these books and would they be any use with using with HoN ? I mean obviously you would have to try and ignore some of the units being used etc.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [25/01/2016] à 19:33

The scales are very different in the two games, as are the mechanics. Not sure there will be all that much in the way of cross-over beyond the theme.


Maybe others have a more helpful point of view 😉


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [25/01/2016] à 20:01

I have bought the Normandy book. I understand it is a very different game in terms of gameplay and mechanics but the D-Day book gave some rather interesting missions I will pick one up and report back. Hope to see something similar with HoN one day.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [27/01/2016] à 22:47

A friend plays Bolt Action and I looked at several of his books. Other than nice graphics I felt they would not be useful for HoN. As Nostradunwhich says above, different scale and scope of the game.


But if someone loans them to you, they are interesting to look at.


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [28/01/2016] à 08:43

I got one of the D Day books to have a read of and it looks interesting. I'm going to convert a few of the missions for HoN. But yes I agree. Bolt action would be a crazy hobby to have. I could never do the painting.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [28/01/2016] à 17:57

Quote from Newbie1994 on [28/01/2016] à 08:43

Bolt action would be a crazy hobby to have. I could never do the painting.


As a recovering WH40k addict and an ex Flames of War Player, I can tell you the painting can become quite a chore. Take a look at the normal Soviet Army for Flames of War for example. Took quite some time just to paint the troops, let alone the basing and finishing.


As I told one of my old Flames of War buddies, another advantage to HoN is I open the box and all my troops are "painted and based". LOL


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [28/01/2016] à 18:00

I had a small Catachan army for WH40k but it was never my thing I hate painting and that always stopped me from war gaming also with having to create a battlefield too. This is why I love being able to open the box and play straight away.


By the way i will try and put on a few new missions that are included in this book and make them for HoN.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [28/01/2016] à 22:29

Quote from Newbie1994 on [28/01/2016] à 18:00

I had a small Catachan army for WH40k but it was never my thing I hate painting and that always stopped me from war gaming also with having to create a battlefield too. This is why I love being able to open the box and play straight away.


My eyesight is not what it used to be, I don't have the time I once had and I was never a great painter to begin with, so I also gave up on miniatures gaming myself. But HoN really scratched that itch and is a ton of fun to boot 🙂


Quote from Newbie1994 on [28/01/2016] à 18:00

By the way i will try and put on a few new missions that are included in this book and make them for HoN.


Well, I would use them as ideas rather than straight conversions… don't want to copy things verbatim. 😉


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [29/01/2016] à 08:31

I'm an ex-40K and ex-Flames of War gamer too. I was more into converting the figures than painting. I'm so slow painter and I don't really enjoy painting that much.


So HoN/SoN is also my game to play a "miniatures game" without actually having to deal with the miniatures.


I'm still looking for a game with a suitably low number of miniatures to paint. I've started with Imperial assault (star wars miniatures) and I'm waiting for the Mercs Recon kickstarter to be delivered (your "army" actually consist of only 5 miniatures).


This is supposed to be a joyful occasion. Lets not bicker and argue about who killed who.

Bolt Action Book Posted on [29/01/2016] à 08:42

I'm planning of just using the general picture of the missions to create these missions. But these miniatures are so much work all you have to do in HoN is punch a punchboard.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [30/01/2016] à 04:50

Quote from Newbie1994 on [29/01/2016] à 08:42

I'm planning of just using the general picture of the missions to create these missions. But these miniatures are so much work all you have to do in HoN is punch a punchboard.


I look forward to your efforts, it will be interesting to see how they translate over. I agree with you regarding the miniatures. I dumped or sold off all my paints and equipment. I am done trying to make little metal men look good. =)


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [30/01/2016] à 10:15

I have to be honest and admit I think these missions would translate well for HoN. I mean ok the rules and scale is different but we have all the units and boards to recreate these missions apart from hills. I must get around to trying to get this down into paper.


I also ordered the British Army and German Army books to help me.


I tried to paint 40k figures once and I just destroyed games because of my awful painting. But hey also HoN you get so much more for your money. £40 would get you a box of figures and nothing else and for HoN you get the whole game with no painting playable out of the box with the ease of play, depth and complexity that all these war games have.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [30/01/2016] à 21:35

Went by the FLGS today and looked at the Bolt Action books they had there. I agree, the ideas for the missions might work with some tweaking. But to be honest, some of them had way more detail then I think we can add into the game with HoN. In the end, I will be quite interested in seeing what you come out with.


Speaking of conversions from other games, there are a few scenarios over on BBG that were conversions from ASL. The person did a great job in my opinion. It would be worth your time and effort to go check them out.


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 14:05

I will try and get something working this week. I seem to be bogged down in work with my day job and also my after hours job as a musician. But I will get onto this right away.


I was looking at doing a mission based around the German breakthough at Mortain and having a mission based with 2 separate orders for each commander. For example the American Commanders mission would start with preventing the breakthough and having one of his squads in a preset position. And the German commanders is to breakthough the line of resistance and capture certain points. I will have to plan this out.


I am also trying to do a mission based around the defense of an aid station.I want to try and get a more personal story to these missions.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 15:49

a better idea for scenarios would be the Osprey Campaign books. Each one covers a particular operation and gives you detailed maps, force listings and key battles.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 15:54

I have a number of the osprey books which I was hoping to use in conjunction too with making a few missions.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 22:47

Quote from Demonetrigan on [31/01/2016] à 15:49

a better idea for scenarios would be the Osprey Campaign books. Each one covers a particular operation and gives you detailed maps, force listings and key battles.


I used many of the Osprey books when building game ideas for Flames of War. They were quite useful for things like the maps.


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 22:50

Quote from Newbie1994 on [31/01/2016] à 14:05

I will try and get something working this week. I seem to be bogged down in work with my day job and also my after hours job as a musician. But I will get onto this right away.


No rush. We all know how Real Life can slow down our "Hobby Time" quite a bit. I know I have that happen with my work, family, and other responsibilities all the time. If only we could play and do hobby stuff all the time. But we can't. =)


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Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 23:13

I guess that what makes our hobby so special. I've ordered the German,American and British army books from Bolt Action and ordered 2 pre painted British Army Bren Team (just to see). But I have found this bolt action book really interesting especially more interesting trying to convert or think or seeing new ideas for missions.


Bolt Action Book Posted on [31/01/2016] à 23:39

Quote from Newbie1994 on [31/01/2016] à 23:13

I guess that what makes our hobby so special. I've ordered the German,American and British army books from Bolt Action and ordered 2 pre painted British Army Bren Team (just to see). But I have found this bolt action book really interesting especially more interesting trying to convert or think or seeing new ideas for missions.


Bolt Action is a fun game, but is it a different scale that HoN. It is easy for the Bolt Action games to become a major arms race. The group at the FLGS broke up because it was too easy for someone to just field all late war goodies and overcome their opponent.


Bolt Action can be hard for those who feel overly competitive. Where the games like HoN help keep army stacking to a minimum and thus are, IMO, easier to keep on a friendly fun level.


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